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Randy Papple – Paramedic – County of Brant

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Randy Papple – Paramedic – County of Brant (recorded in Brantford, ON)

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December 13, 2018 | Podcasting Live to Air from Brantford on BRAAGLE

Podcast Interview Transcript

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welcome to something to talk about where

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I basically take all of this gear that

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I’ve got and say you know what I really

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should have something to talk about and

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there’s nothing better to talk about

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then talking with someone else so

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welcome Randeep Apple hello Randy no

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thank you Robert and I’m looking at all

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your gear here it’s a pretty neat pretty

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neat – its I gotta remind people that

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when I first started podcasting I

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literally was using like a little PC

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Logitech mic and an mp3 recorder that is

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actually still sitting here so I went

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from starting with this little piece to

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all of this and I gotta tell you I still

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don’t know what I’m doing okay so

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something to talk about what do you want

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to talk about Randy we can talk about

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the life as a paramedic life here in

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Brantford calling 911 talk about a

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little bit about PTSD we can talk about

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how how to call your first responders we

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got lots of them capita and honestly if

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this does go well and you enjoy yourself

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you know some of those things might

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actually become secondary episodes

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because I’m pretty sure we’re just gonna

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touch the base on a few things because

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as we talked about we do want to keep

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this short let’s start right there life

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as a paramedic you know I don’t I don’t

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see a lot of paramedics you’re actually

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one of the few paramedics I see on a

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regular basis because you know we go to

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a lot of events but you’re one of those

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types of things that you really don’t

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want to see cops paramedics or

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firefighters because there’s normally a

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reason for that so life as a paramedic

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sir well it is and unfortunately each of

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those if you’re seeing us out in the

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community it’s or at your house or a

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street corner it’s probably not a good

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thing and I think back how things have

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changed myself um next month will be my

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fortieth year as a paramedic and and I

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really look back to how things have

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changed and just like you said earlier

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Robert even technology and I think

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that’s the big thing how everything has

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changed for us as paramedics and I’m

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sure as first responders it is the pen

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and paper thing is kind of a little bit

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in history now

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everything is done in a tablet and so

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it’s you know even though we know we

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still Drive big trucks big fancy trucks

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with its everything inside it and I

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quite often thinks how things have

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evolved it’s and I quite often say when

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I’m doing presentations out in the

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community talking about the paramedics

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in your community it’s like bringing

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your emergency department right to your

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living room or right to the street

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corner some of the things that our

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paramedics can do now and it’s exciting

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it’s really exciting and it’s it’s it’s

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really advanced over the years and I

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would only assume that that that they’re

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forever connected now as well you know

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forty years ago when you were in the

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ambulance it was you may be a partner

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back in the day you know in the thing

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and maybe what access to a payphone

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somewhere nearby you you were on the

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street by yourself

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now you’re probably accessing you know

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the surgeon at the hospital in real time

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or exactly in where Bluetooth thing to

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the hospital where lutea were

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communicating to the hospital a time we

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have ie to have our cell phones they

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have portable radios that we can connect

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to the doctors to our base hospital

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doctor and but again it’s a lot of

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things how exciting things are even for

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myself I I know when I see our

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paramedics out there and I go WOW house

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and it just reflect how things have

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really changed over the years

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now for people that are not from around

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here you know like most people around

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here know Randy you know because you’re

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out yeah but you know for the people

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that are not local walk me through maybe

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your career you know maybe hit the

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talking place cuz forty years my god

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right now your toe official title is

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what deputy chief for the paramedics

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here in Brant and Branford paramedic

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service we’ve just had a recent name

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change but certainly forty years ago I

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started as an observer of writing as a

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third person then I got accepted this

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Gould and Conestoga it was a one-year

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program back then and when I got

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accepted to school they asked if I’d

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like some part-time while I’m going to

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school and like

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did that and I was very very fortunate

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upon graduation two weeks prior somebody

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quit full-time so I moved right into my

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hometown and it’s in being there pretty

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well ever since in yeah

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I did a little stint in Oden Hagar’s

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Ville and Haldeman for three four years

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and then came back here to my hometown

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and it’s it’s been very good to me it’s

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certainly one of the things that I enjoy

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as you just mentioned is being out in

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the community and talking about how

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proud I am of the service that we have

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in all the first responders that we have

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in Brantford and brain County now you

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try getting out to doing different

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presentations to different groups and

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talking to them some of the things that

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may happen when you dial nine-one-one

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what to expect and when we arrive at

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your doorstep and how we can help you

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out on your worst day and make it as

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easy as possible now you mentioned on

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your worst day you’ve obviously seen

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quite a bit over the years you’ve seen

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people come and go you’ve seen people

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grow old you seen babies you know maybe

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walk me through some of the the good and

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the bad of 40 years of experience okay

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and certainly and one of the exciting

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things and it you know you talk about

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newborns and you know every so often

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showing in probably every six months we

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have a home delivery and our order

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station not at our station but our

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paramedics go out and assist somebody

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that’s had a delivery at home and that’s

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really exciting that’s a that’s always

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very big news within our department

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paramedics and but also when I was on

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the road you know it’s exciting for

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yourself to be part of it to help a mom

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and dad bring a newborn into the family

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and everything turned out well and and

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then I remember to them showing up a

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year later with a piece of birthday cake

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and and how the years gone by and you

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don’t think years have gone by and all

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of a sudden this young teenager comes by

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one day with his mom and do you remember

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me and I go nah well his Mongols you

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delivered him I got word that those

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years go out you know and I quite often

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think

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I get teased probably quite a bit is

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every time I say five years everybody

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reminds me friend he was 10 years ago

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and how the hell things have changed I

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he’ll think how time flies

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well it’s it’s true when they say when

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you’re doing something that you’re meant

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to do well 40 years come on to do the

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same thing and for the same organization

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for the most part during those 40 years

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that’s that’s unheard of and especially

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my industry yeah yeah say and it’s it’s

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been good it certainly you know it’s

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dirt there is how I think back how

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things have grown when I first started

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we had a handful employees now we have a

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hundred and fifteen employees that that

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come from all over you know we we were

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troupe from all over and and certainly

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it’s becoming a career now hmm opposed

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to back then it was just a job and one

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of the things that we had to do is some

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of them back there 40 years ago had to

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find another job to because the money

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wasn’t there now it’s it’s our

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paramedics do well and you know what

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Karen and I were talking about this you

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know it there are certain people that I

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want to throw money at teachers as an

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example paramedics you know the things

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that I would need to have they’re done

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right yes because you know take teaching

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that will make or break a human being

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for the rest of their lives with that

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base education similarly when the end of

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my life happens yes you’ll either be

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there or you want so you know you kind

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of represent common entities in that

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sense but yeah but pay well and hire the

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best cuz I don’t want someone guessing

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I’m sorry no and it’s and we do that is

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you know quite often now it is how and

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we talked about electronics of that has

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changed and and I know quite often our

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paramedics on a way to a call plan of

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their cell phone they have apps for

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everything and they’re checking that

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last minute drug dose if they you know

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and and I’m gonna pick on some on an

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infant you know if it weighs this much

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it gets this if it doesn’t weigh this

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much it gets us in just finding that

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that fine edge and inhabit it in their

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head I and quite often even that’s will

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send to crews of paramedics to a scene

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and the other one is doing their thing

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and the other ones double-checking

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everything and we’re always confirming

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right drug to the right person at the

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right time and just confirming all that

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is right and long gone are the things

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that you even see at the hospital

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everything’s done in textbook I don’t

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think of a textbook big enough I have to

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bring a trailer don’t everything is on

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our phones now which is again a big

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advancement in technology

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it always does make me wonder though

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what would happen if we didn’t have that

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one day but you know for the most part

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it’s there and it is it is operational

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you know it’s something you brought up

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there that that caught my ear when the

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responders are out there they’re

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connected and but really they don’t know

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what they’re getting into on a

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day-to-day like everything could be a

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good day it could be a bad day you know

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and I’m kind of building up to to the

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PTSD Pia when someone dials 911 there’s

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typically trauma you know on the

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individual it unless you’re calling 911

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because you’re an idiot yes yes and

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you’re calling because you know the

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temperature is too cold or yes you know

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but yeah for the most part when 911 gets

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called that’s an all-hands-on-deck you

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know that that could be a fire that can

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be a domestic situation it could be a

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hell thing all three parties show up on

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the scene before we maybe dial into the

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larger thing what does a 911 look like

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because that is a lot of coordination

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that is a lot of hands that is a lot of

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very capable individuals called on the

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scene for one instance and I’ll talk

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about our dispatch center and it’s the

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same as each organization and it’s like

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a mini NASA station is a lot of

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computers when that first call comes in

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it comes in please fire or paramedics

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what’s your emergency you pick one it

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gets sent to that organization and if

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you need the others that dispatcher on

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that communicator on the other end will

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make sure that the paramedics are need

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if we went to the police department the

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paramedics are needed or the fires

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needed and they’ll send those ones out

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right away also so it’s

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a coordinated effort to to get all them

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and it’s like when it’s done well it’s

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like poetry in motion and how quickly

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things move to the next organization to

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the next First Responder

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in getting everybody out the door is and

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I think back previous we used to get

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some information or get a lot of our

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information on a phone now it were paged

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out just get on on the air and all the

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information the details of it is given

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to you why you’re heading that way so so

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your response time is considerably

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better because you’re boots on the

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ground not necessarily knowing all the

0:11:44.499,0:11:48.279
details but the details will be there

0:11:46.059,0:11:50.739
you know by the time you arrive you’re

0:11:48.279,0:11:53.499
right they and you see it they and you

0:11:50.739,0:11:56.049
know on each of us have it’s you know we

0:11:53.499,0:11:57.910
have the our laptops a in in our

0:11:56.049,0:12:00.579
vehicles which narrows the right down to

0:11:57.910,0:12:03.579
the street corner and it’s in some

0:12:00.579,0:12:06.009
centers to win this when they call comes

0:12:03.579,0:12:07.899
in it’s lit up on your laptop where

0:12:06.009,0:12:10.119
exactly that it is and the shortest

0:12:07.899,0:12:14.110
distance and and where’s the heavy

0:12:10.119,0:12:17.079
traffic so again it’s all technology in

0:12:14.110,0:12:18.639
it and it works great especially when

0:12:17.079,0:12:21.639
you’re in a situation where seconds

0:12:18.639,0:12:23.410
matter especially you know let’s let’s

0:12:21.639,0:12:25.179
bring up something that’s happening a

0:12:23.410,0:12:27.429
lot in Brantford which is you know the

0:12:25.179,0:12:28.749
the opiates yes you know that’s

0:12:27.429,0:12:31.389
something you’re probably getting a lot

0:12:28.749,0:12:33.669
of calls on purely around that I’m

0:12:31.389,0:12:36.429
guessing you know this far more than me

0:12:33.669,0:12:39.929
yes yeah and it doesn’t really have to

0:12:36.429,0:12:42.850
give a lot of credit to our Brantford

0:12:39.929,0:12:45.089
knows we have a bit of an issue and also

0:12:42.850,0:12:48.999
a bit of an issue and we gonna have some

0:12:45.089,0:12:50.709
proactive organizations that are working

0:12:48.999,0:12:52.660
on it too you know we have the st.

0:12:50.709,0:12:56.649
Leonard’s group is is heading it up we

0:12:52.660,0:12:58.959
have a an aggressive police chief who is

0:12:56.649,0:13:01.600
right on top of things and wants to make

0:12:58.959,0:13:04.779
sure that he keeps on top of things or

0:13:01.600,0:13:06.759
his officers keep on top of things so

0:13:04.779,0:13:09.579
it’s always nice to see that we’re

0:13:06.759,0:13:12.489
really as a community proactive in

0:13:09.579,0:13:14.889
finding out exactly what we have in the

0:13:12.489,0:13:17.619
community if we have something come into

0:13:14.889,0:13:19.839
the community how quickly it is sent out

0:13:17.619,0:13:20.889
to all the agencies involved in and I

0:13:19.839,0:13:23.049
know ourselves

0:13:20.889,0:13:26.579
they want to know what our local police

0:13:23.049,0:13:29.290
department is if we have a sudden spike

0:13:26.579,0:13:31.329
let us know but most of times that

0:13:29.290,0:13:34.329
they’re there but if we if there’s

0:13:31.329,0:13:36.670
something in an area that you know

0:13:34.329,0:13:39.999
whether it be the West End or the East

0:13:36.670,0:13:41.949
End or or up in the shelter’s Lane area

0:13:39.999,0:13:43.209
if something happens up there we just

0:13:41.949,0:13:46.359
suddenly get three calls in a day

0:13:43.209,0:13:48.189
there’s something going on and we’re

0:13:46.359,0:13:51.669
gonna put extra boots on the ground and

0:13:48.189,0:13:54.369
try finding a word that source is ya

0:13:51.669,0:13:56.290
know and like I said you you try not to

0:13:54.369,0:13:58.029
focus too much on it but you know it’s

0:13:56.290,0:14:00.730
it’s something that does get gets

0:13:58.029,0:14:02.619
impressed in the process now one of the

0:14:00.730,0:14:04.809
things that that you brought up it and I

0:14:02.619,0:14:06.669
forget what it’s called but in the event

0:14:04.809,0:14:09.699
that someone is dealing with someone

0:14:06.669,0:14:12.069
with a crisis specifically opiates in

0:14:09.699,0:14:13.660
this case there’s a clause or whatnot

0:14:12.069,0:14:15.160
that you can call and you’re not going

0:14:13.660,0:14:16.600
to necessarily get in trouble to help

0:14:15.160,0:14:18.100
that individual there there’s a term for

0:14:16.600,0:14:19.959
that I don’t know what do you know what

0:14:18.100,0:14:21.850
I’m talking about no I I thought there

0:14:19.959,0:14:24.459
is they I don’t know the buzzword

0:14:21.850,0:14:25.660
tradeoff but it’s it’s to me one of the

0:14:24.459,0:14:29.019
things that I’ve always thought about

0:14:25.660,0:14:30.100
when I think about health yes is you

0:14:29.019,0:14:32.559
don’t want to be the one calling the

0:14:30.100,0:14:35.850
doctor no you know and let alone calling

0:14:32.559,0:14:39.129
the ambulance and let alone calling 911

0:14:35.850,0:14:42.309
dying of a heroin or worse you know

0:14:39.129,0:14:44.079
overdosed beside you and I believe that

0:14:42.309,0:14:45.459
there are things in play and it’s a

0:14:44.079,0:14:47.199
shame I can’t remember the term and I’m

0:14:45.459,0:14:49.059
sure you know come on yes yes we’re done

0:14:47.199,0:14:51.129
talking of course but I guess my point

0:14:49.059,0:14:53.110
being is don’t be scared to call and

0:14:51.129,0:14:55.869
those right and that’s the big thing

0:14:53.110,0:14:57.730
calling for help getting somebody for

0:14:55.869,0:14:59.559
help them so often we hear throughout

0:14:57.730,0:15:01.839
the year throughout my career I didn’t

0:14:59.559,0:15:03.489
want to get involved so you know I

0:15:01.839,0:15:05.739
didn’t want to be the finger pointed at

0:15:03.489,0:15:08.619
me and I think some when someone’s down

0:15:05.739,0:15:10.989
and needs assistance we’d much rather

0:15:08.619,0:15:14.350
hear from you and get help to that

0:15:10.989,0:15:16.449
person and don’t lie to the medics yeah

0:15:14.350,0:15:19.269
yeah and be able to say thank you at the

0:15:16.449,0:15:20.889
end opposed to you know why did you not

0:15:19.269,0:15:23.649
call her why didn’t somebody call

0:15:20.889,0:15:26.980
earlier mm-hmm so that’s our big thing

0:15:23.649,0:15:28.839
is call early a is no we’d rather be

0:15:26.980,0:15:30.489
there early and give them some

0:15:28.839,0:15:33.540
assistance early and get him to a

0:15:30.489,0:15:36.870
hospital at the right time mm-hmm

0:15:33.540,0:15:38.430
the main topic that that I want to

0:15:36.870,0:15:39.930
broach and I’m just obviously aware of

0:15:38.430,0:15:42.270
the time and I want to factor it in and

0:15:39.930,0:15:45.390
I don’t want to skirt it too much you

0:15:42.270,0:15:47.370
see a lot we do and I know you’ve been

0:15:45.390,0:15:49.020
affected by certain things and we’ve

0:15:47.370,0:15:50.730
never talked details and I don’t

0:15:49.020,0:15:54.510
necessarily want to pry or anything like

0:15:50.730,0:15:55.950
that but I’d love to hear your story you

0:15:54.510,0:15:58.500
know in terms of what you’ve gone

0:15:55.950,0:16:03.450
through what you’re willing to share in

0:15:58.500,0:16:06.930
your own words I know I told you didn’t

0:16:03.450,0:16:09.810
oh yeah and thank you even brought you a

0:16:06.930,0:16:13.740
cat just a comfort you had my therapy

0:16:09.810,0:16:15.990
cat right now is no and you know and

0:16:13.740,0:16:19.530
I’ll talk as all first responders and

0:16:15.990,0:16:22.200
sometimes and in my case to a call that

0:16:19.530,0:16:24.240
happened 25 years ago didn’t think about

0:16:22.200,0:16:26.340
it didn’t think about it you know I

0:16:24.240,0:16:30.960
avoided the intersection where it was

0:16:26.340,0:16:32.550
for many many years and and then I you

0:16:30.960,0:16:34.200
know would in there’s two or three calls

0:16:32.550,0:16:36.090
for brantford that I would go around

0:16:34.200,0:16:39.060
that block because I just wanted to

0:16:36.090,0:16:41.340
avoid that area and then one day out of

0:16:39.060,0:16:43.170
the blue we’re doing the a.m. and I know

0:16:41.340,0:16:47.010
exactly what it was was in the fall of

0:16:43.170,0:16:51.810
14 we’re doing a roundtable thing with

0:16:47.010,0:16:54.330
the police fire mental health it’s they

0:16:51.810,0:16:56.580
held Frank County Health Unit the

0:16:54.330,0:16:59.130
Brantford General Hospital because we

0:16:56.580,0:17:00.720
were suddenly in the full 14 summer and

0:16:59.130,0:17:05.070
fall for you we’ve had a sudden spike

0:17:00.720,0:17:08.010
spike in suicide the teenagers and so

0:17:05.070,0:17:10.260
then it’s all over it’s like us here and

0:17:08.010,0:17:12.510
a little bit closing the mics down and

0:17:10.260,0:17:14.699
saying great job and then it kind of

0:17:12.510,0:17:19.110
went around the table hey you guys you

0:17:14.699,0:17:21.420
do see some bad stuff and then all of a

0:17:19.110,0:17:24.120
sudden out of the blue this call came

0:17:21.420,0:17:26.640
back from you know almost like I said 25

0:17:24.120,0:17:29.370
years ago and just pouring down my

0:17:26.640,0:17:32.190
cheeks and and thank goodness I can’t

0:17:29.370,0:17:34.170
say enough people dead and we had a lady

0:17:32.190,0:17:36.630
there from Canadian mental health and I

0:17:34.170,0:17:38.010
left the room loved everybody there she

0:17:36.630,0:17:39.930
followed me on the parking lot what

0:17:38.010,0:17:41.940
happened Randy I’ve never seen you like

0:17:39.930,0:17:43.920
that I said I don’t know where this came

0:17:41.940,0:17:46.860
from it just you know something happened

0:17:43.920,0:17:50.220
in that room and it took a

0:17:46.860,0:17:52.140
it’s a lot after that to to work on it

0:17:50.220,0:17:54.510
to get four I can get back to sleep in

0:17:52.140,0:17:56.940
regular patterns it’s you know and

0:17:54.510,0:17:59.190
unfortunately miss um miss some time at

0:17:56.940,0:18:01.620
work trying to get some counseling and I

0:17:59.190,0:18:04.290
cannot say enough you know I’m a big

0:18:01.620,0:18:05.940
believer now in counseling and I own and

0:18:04.290,0:18:08.280
I joke I say I’m on the maintenance

0:18:05.940,0:18:10.080
program every six months I’m in there

0:18:08.280,0:18:12.200
whether we’re talking hockey or

0:18:10.080,0:18:16.050
something when I leave on making my next

0:18:12.200,0:18:18.360
appointment day and and I look back and

0:18:16.050,0:18:20.400
I know after the third or fourth session

0:18:18.360,0:18:22.620
things are getting better and I talked

0:18:20.400,0:18:24.690
about I want to set one every six months

0:18:22.620,0:18:27.570
and he said and I know that was one

0:18:24.690,0:18:29.430
thing they were so happy about because

0:18:27.570,0:18:31.770
we’d much rather see you at your

0:18:29.430,0:18:34.740
maintenance program then you coming in

0:18:31.770,0:18:36.510
here and and we’re talking about trying

0:18:34.740,0:18:38.520
to get back to doing four hours of work

0:18:36.510,0:18:42.420
trying to get your sleep pattern back

0:18:38.520,0:18:45.240
back and not hiding in the dark and not

0:18:42.420,0:18:47.790
becoming secluded ugh and for a while

0:18:45.240,0:18:49.620
and and I was almost deafening on like

0:18:47.790,0:18:53.400
your cell phone on Facebook quite a bit

0:18:49.620,0:18:55.350
and it’s just went on Facebook yeah and

0:18:53.400,0:18:57.720
stop doing a lot of my activity stopped

0:18:55.350,0:18:59.580
running stopped just didn’t want to be

0:18:57.720,0:19:02.820
around anybody and then finally you know

0:18:59.580,0:19:05.120
chipping away at it and it took a lot to

0:19:02.820,0:19:09.060
say Randy I want you to get out there

0:19:05.120,0:19:11.910
walk one kilometer then try running to

0:19:09.060,0:19:13.860
one kilometer and and it’s you know when

0:19:11.910,0:19:16.260
you’ve got to get your ear your things

0:19:13.860,0:19:17.730
back on get back to work and at least

0:19:16.260,0:19:21.480
hang up with some guys that you could

0:19:17.730,0:19:24.990
share with and that’s that worked out

0:19:21.480,0:19:28.430
well and now I’m I could stand up and do

0:19:24.990,0:19:31.140
a whole presentation on PTSD and in

0:19:28.430,0:19:34.530
resiliency and being proactive for your

0:19:31.140,0:19:36.570
health because it it means a lot to me a

0:19:34.530,0:19:39.900
you know I want to see you at work every

0:19:36.570,0:19:41.820
day I want to see you be able to get

0:19:39.900,0:19:44.130
through a day and not having that the

0:19:41.820,0:19:47.010
nightmares and not having the the sweats

0:19:44.130,0:19:49.620
and not being able to go out and with

0:19:47.010,0:19:51.720
your family and friends because you’re

0:19:49.620,0:19:54.000
just not the person you were two years

0:19:51.720,0:19:56.760
ago three years ago five years ago and

0:19:54.000,0:19:58.650
it’s it’s it takes work and I know I

0:19:56.760,0:20:00.519
took a lot of work on my end it took a

0:19:58.650,0:20:03.519
lot of family support um

0:20:00.519,0:20:06.959
and I know when it in this all kind of

0:20:03.519,0:20:09.969
hit hit the fan my kids are calling me

0:20:06.959,0:20:13.119
because I that instant that I talked

0:20:09.969,0:20:15.190
about was the in 2015

0:20:13.119,0:20:17.469
Canaan mental health asked if I would

0:20:15.190,0:20:22.539
help they got a government grant would I

0:20:17.469,0:20:24.399
be able to tell that story through as a

0:20:22.539,0:20:27.159
kickoff to Canadian mental health so we

0:20:24.399,0:20:29.789
did a little video and and if you want

0:20:27.159,0:20:34.179
to look at it it’s a rain deep apple

0:20:29.789,0:20:35.769
it’s on YouTube brandy papal PTSD and it

0:20:34.179,0:20:37.809
took a lot to get through that but

0:20:35.769,0:20:40.409
probably one of the better things I did

0:20:37.809,0:20:44.109
in my career because what I did it it

0:20:40.409,0:20:46.629
during that I was taking counseling and

0:20:44.109,0:20:48.489
doing this video and it was bringing out

0:20:46.629,0:20:50.799
some some hard things some hard to talk

0:20:48.489,0:20:53.229
about things but it got out there on the

0:20:50.799,0:20:55.209
table and they certainly you know the

0:20:53.229,0:20:58.690
people when we were doing the video were

0:20:55.209,0:21:00.519
very understanding and it’s and I was

0:20:58.690,0:21:03.159
making appointments almost every other

0:21:00.519,0:21:05.009
day of the counselors for about that two

0:21:03.159,0:21:08.320
weeks so we got through this video and

0:21:05.009,0:21:10.089
it’s I look back now and say that was

0:21:08.320,0:21:12.609
the one of the best things I did you

0:21:10.089,0:21:15.369
know it’s you so often it went from the

0:21:12.609,0:21:18.639
old school of you know put the old

0:21:15.369,0:21:21.879
stigma of put up and keep on going and

0:21:18.639,0:21:23.609
it’s part of the job well there’s

0:21:21.879,0:21:28.119
assistance out there and I’m really

0:21:23.609,0:21:30.729
promoting now how to be proactive in a

0:21:28.119,0:21:32.979
lot more resiliency in preventing things

0:21:30.729,0:21:34.749
like that you know getting oten and

0:21:32.979,0:21:37.059
doing things that are for you doing

0:21:34.749,0:21:39.070
things that you know that are good for

0:21:37.059,0:21:40.570
your body good for your soul you know

0:21:39.070,0:21:42.489
and everything you know we mentioned

0:21:40.570,0:21:44.440
here are our therapy cadets who are

0:21:42.489,0:21:46.690
walking around here today find out

0:21:44.440,0:21:50.649
things that make you happy and I know

0:21:46.690,0:21:53.739
their last summer when we happen to have

0:21:50.649,0:21:56.049
a dog and I spent many many many many

0:21:53.739,0:21:58.389
kilometres running with my dog

0:21:56.049,0:22:00.759
you know how things switched before I

0:21:58.389,0:22:03.579
used to run with groups and and always

0:22:00.759,0:22:05.679
be with somebody chatting it up when but

0:22:03.579,0:22:07.599
we took the summer and my dog and I

0:22:05.679,0:22:09.909
hooch and I only ran many many

0:22:07.599,0:22:13.509
kilometers bound through the beautiful

0:22:09.909,0:22:13.960
trails we have here and in Brantford and

0:22:13.509,0:22:16.690
just

0:22:13.960,0:22:18.850
enjoyed each one of them and by time

0:22:16.690,0:22:20.590
fall came the first couple snow falls

0:22:18.850,0:22:23.890
poor hooch no I don’t want to go into

0:22:20.590,0:22:28.750
any more your you’re already on yourself

0:22:23.890,0:22:30.520
it’s the trails here are spectacular one

0:22:28.750,0:22:32.350
of the things that saved me and you’ve

0:22:30.520,0:22:35.140
known me through yeah that period of

0:22:32.350,0:22:37.750
time one of the things that you do on

0:22:35.140,0:22:41.830
the side that I think it kind of is

0:22:37.750,0:22:43.809
linked to all of this is your clown

0:22:41.830,0:22:45.760
project for lack of a better term so

0:22:43.809,0:22:47.890
tell me about bandy they need the clown

0:22:45.760,0:22:51.940
yes the bane of the clown he’s been

0:22:47.890,0:22:54.610
around again Wow almost thirty years

0:22:51.940,0:22:57.190
they and how bandy the clown started was

0:22:54.610,0:23:01.620
life before kids I was very fortunate

0:22:57.190,0:23:06.190
live beside Doug to break Doug hunt hey

0:23:01.620,0:23:08.520
neighbors know that yeah and and I was

0:23:06.190,0:23:10.600
like before kids and I was a very young

0:23:08.520,0:23:12.100
ambulance driver back then that’s what

0:23:10.600,0:23:14.620
they call this and West drivers back

0:23:12.100,0:23:16.299
then and a succumbing to a couple of

0:23:14.620,0:23:18.010
nursery schools and schools can you tell

0:23:16.299,0:23:21.190
us can we see through your ambulance can

0:23:18.010,0:23:23.470
we see through your your your truck and

0:23:21.190,0:23:24.730
you know I’d bring my first aid bag and

0:23:23.470,0:23:26.470
what this is my first aid bag any

0:23:24.730,0:23:28.539
questions is is if somebody’s really

0:23:26.470,0:23:30.070
sickly given watch any questions I was

0:23:28.539,0:23:31.870
in and out of those schools in 15

0:23:30.070,0:23:35.039
minutes and and I brought Doug with me

0:23:31.870,0:23:36.850
one day and he go into Randy you really

0:23:35.039,0:23:38.710
you you suck

0:23:36.850,0:23:40.390
buddy you suck we got to get some humor

0:23:38.710,0:23:42.010
into some of this stuff so he gave me a

0:23:40.390,0:23:45.010
couple of books when we practiced I

0:23:42.010,0:23:48.429
practiced in front of Doug I and we made

0:23:45.010,0:23:51.789
and then I really stepped out and I made

0:23:48.429,0:23:53.830
myself a little tiny tiny ambulance made

0:23:51.789,0:23:58.000
out of a scooter I I squeezed myself

0:23:53.830,0:24:01.539
into it and it’s in ever since then it’s

0:23:58.000,0:24:03.429
being my place to go you know I yes I

0:24:01.539,0:24:05.380
entertain with that yes I do and

0:24:03.429,0:24:08.409
probably on the most part do a lot a lot

0:24:05.380,0:24:10.210
of fundraising with that and you know

0:24:08.409,0:24:12.850
and I guess I can twist some balloons

0:24:10.210,0:24:14.529
and I can often say I can twist any

0:24:12.850,0:24:17.890
balloon character you want long as it’s

0:24:14.529,0:24:21.549
a dog or cat yeah and you know it’s we

0:24:17.890,0:24:23.889
have fun with it there is because it is

0:24:21.549,0:24:26.260
a fun thing to do and also the other

0:24:23.889,0:24:27.910
thing that we’ve done we reached out and

0:24:26.260,0:24:29.740
and we got in

0:24:27.910,0:24:32.310
to the hospital ocol hospital here

0:24:29.740,0:24:35.590
Branford and every Wednesday night we

0:24:32.310,0:24:37.240
our clown group the fun troupe it’s

0:24:35.590,0:24:39.430
called go to the Brantford General

0:24:37.240,0:24:41.320
Hospital and we entertained for an hour

0:24:39.430,0:24:43.180
hour and a half throughout the hospital

0:24:41.320,0:24:46.210
you know we give out little stickers we

0:24:43.180,0:24:48.970
do some like quick little magic and just

0:24:46.210,0:24:50.680
entertain great from the children to the

0:24:48.970,0:24:53.470
adults to the visitors and make our way

0:24:50.680,0:24:55.960
over to the emergency department and it

0:24:53.470,0:24:58.420
I think it’s fun for everyone it’s

0:24:55.960,0:25:01.270
certainly fun for us we we have fun and

0:24:58.420,0:25:03.850
and you know it takes a the patients and

0:25:01.270,0:25:04.630
they in the visitors mind off of what

0:25:03.850,0:25:07.690
they’re there for

0:25:04.630,0:25:09.280
just for that few minutes that’s and we

0:25:07.690,0:25:11.920
quite often get invited to different

0:25:09.280,0:25:13.990
things that the hospital is having and

0:25:11.920,0:25:15.580
it’s it’s it’s being fun you know

0:25:13.990,0:25:18.490
certainly as bandy the clown I’ve

0:25:15.580,0:25:20.560
traveled a lot with bandy the clown you

0:25:18.490,0:25:23.200
know I do some Street entertaining being

0:25:20.560,0:25:25.800
at Kingston I think is my my 29th or

0:25:23.200,0:25:28.870
30th year being a street entertainer

0:25:25.800,0:25:31.600
dance you know I entertained for the

0:25:28.870,0:25:33.910
Gretzky’s families and you know think

0:25:31.600,0:25:36.220
about over the years where all this has

0:25:33.910,0:25:37.750
taken you and and if it was just rain

0:25:36.220,0:25:39.580
deep apple I don’t think I would have

0:25:37.750,0:25:41.980
ever got invited to a lot of these

0:25:39.580,0:25:44.260
things we’re entertained you know and

0:25:41.980,0:25:47.110
the other thing that I do and I mention

0:25:44.260,0:25:49.660
it real quick is I’ve taken a little bit

0:25:47.110,0:25:53.830
what bandy the clown does and am i

0:25:49.660,0:25:57.340
running I blended the two and I juggle

0:25:53.830,0:26:00.100
it’s called juggling is a job fish but

0:25:57.340,0:26:02.500
the official name I’ve seen you do it is

0:26:00.100,0:26:04.750
I juggle when I run it and you know I’ve

0:26:02.500,0:26:07.270
got you’ve done rain down in

0:26:04.750,0:26:10.300
Philadelphia representing Canada today

0:26:07.270,0:26:13.480
and I say oh my Canada shorts my Canada

0:26:10.300,0:26:16.120
socks my Canada Jersey and I picked up a

0:26:13.480,0:26:19.330
couple little sponge balls with yeah all

0:26:16.120,0:26:22.450
Canada and yeah and and I tied a little

0:26:19.330,0:26:24.610
flag foreign air and it flew behind me

0:26:22.450,0:26:26.140
at a Canada flag and it was really

0:26:24.610,0:26:27.610
exciting coming through that finish line

0:26:26.140,0:26:30.280
yeah I didn’t realize how many Canadians

0:26:27.610,0:26:33.760
were there cheering me on and you know

0:26:30.280,0:26:36.700
I’m always here running in in Branford’s

0:26:33.760,0:26:40.000
it’s you know it’s out of the school for

0:26:36.700,0:26:41.590
the blind it has its hands it’s and it’s

0:26:40.000,0:26:43.900
fun you know I’ve

0:26:41.590,0:26:46.630
no to be see a couple of times i running

0:26:43.900,0:26:48.789
racing out there and but it again it’s

0:26:46.630,0:26:52.630
just fun things that we get involved in

0:26:48.789,0:26:54.100
is its end it’s where it takes you and I

0:26:52.630,0:26:56.080
think that’s the big thing is just

0:26:54.100,0:26:58.360
having the passion having fun with it

0:26:56.080,0:27:01.210
and let it happen you know I’ve been

0:26:58.360,0:27:05.230
very fortunate and I talk about bein did

0:27:01.210,0:27:07.510
the clown you know it’s been a feature

0:27:05.230,0:27:12.490
in a couple of magazines front page of

0:27:07.510,0:27:15.159
magazines and 2002 Reader’s Digest voted

0:27:12.490,0:27:18.700
bane to the clown to 2002 Canadian hero

0:27:15.159,0:27:20.500
volunteer hero so you go and I think

0:27:18.700,0:27:23.799
back there in the day I got that phone

0:27:20.500,0:27:25.750
call aids is our you were phoned and are

0:27:23.799,0:27:27.220
you Randy papal bayonet clown yes and

0:27:25.750,0:27:28.570
it’ll no different than any office

0:27:27.220,0:27:30.580
phones we have three or four phones that

0:27:28.570,0:27:32.710
are lines that come in I noticed a

0:27:30.580,0:27:34.929
couple others and I’m trying to sneak

0:27:32.710,0:27:36.340
around the corners thinks thinking who’s

0:27:34.929,0:27:38.620
hiding around the corner telling me

0:27:36.340,0:27:42.340
they’re from Reader’s Digest and we

0:27:38.620,0:27:45.309
voted you the 2002 Canadian hero and I’m

0:27:42.340,0:27:47.620
going I’m a little town of Brantford how

0:27:45.309,0:27:50.559
did you even hear about me well we have

0:27:47.620,0:27:52.659
our sources we’ve got to a big committee

0:27:50.559,0:27:56.289
and then you got to the small one and we

0:27:52.659,0:27:57.549
voted you 2002 kid and I actually said

0:27:56.289,0:27:59.380
give me your phone number

0:27:57.549,0:28:00.789
give me your extension I’ll call you

0:27:59.380,0:28:03.039
back cuz I think somebody’s playing a

0:28:00.789,0:28:04.570
practical joke here on me called them

0:28:03.039,0:28:07.029
back and they said what was that all

0:28:04.570,0:28:08.710
about and I said I’m sure you belong in

0:28:07.029,0:28:10.360
an office we got a whole bunch of

0:28:08.710,0:28:12.909
jokesters that would do something like

0:28:10.360,0:28:15.039
that to me and no no I get it and they

0:28:12.909,0:28:16.990
started laughing in no will Lutz do we

0:28:15.039,0:28:20.380
want to line up some photo shoots with

0:28:16.990,0:28:22.480
you and they did then and I was there

0:28:20.380,0:28:23.919
anybody picks up the reader’s digest and

0:28:22.480,0:28:26.380
it looks on the back the back page

0:28:23.919,0:28:29.130
always features somebody and yeah in

0:28:26.380,0:28:32.590
2002 it was voted that Canadians hero

0:28:29.130,0:28:36.309
following yeah I did not know that bring

0:28:32.590,0:28:39.669
it design your copy oh you probably got

0:28:36.309,0:28:43.960
a hundred we’ve been there you know it

0:28:39.669,0:28:46.990
would sadden me if if you had not gone

0:28:43.960,0:28:49.899
through that chasm because not only is

0:28:46.990,0:28:52.870
randy the runner and juggler how do I

0:28:49.899,0:28:55.030
say it properly jog ler juggler would

0:28:52.870,0:28:57.340
not be juggling

0:28:55.030,0:29:00.430
but band-aid would not be making dogs

0:28:57.340,0:29:03.340
and cats so and let alone you know your

0:29:00.430,0:29:05.170
full-time job yes you know so so thank

0:29:03.340,0:29:06.730
you on three counts I guess is what I’m

0:29:05.170,0:29:09.730
saying that that you were able to

0:29:06.730,0:29:12.100
overcome that because you know trauma

0:29:09.730,0:29:15.130
comes in many ways you know we’ve had

0:29:12.100,0:29:18.220
some brief chats yes and you know I’m

0:29:15.130,0:29:20.500
ten years into my recovery stuff you

0:29:18.220,0:29:23.020
know still recovering everyday so it’s a

0:29:20.500,0:29:25.270
long process I can I can correlate with

0:29:23.020,0:29:28.320
yes that one so on that note anything

0:29:25.270,0:29:30.700
you want to add know if you’re notif

0:29:28.320,0:29:33.250
down the road if you’re at the bradford

0:29:30.700,0:29:35.620
or hospital feel free to on wednesday

0:29:33.250,0:29:36.940
night keep an eye for us it’s the bref

0:29:35.620,0:29:38.920
General Hospital it’s called the fun

0:29:36.940,0:29:42.400
troupe where they’re usually there 6:30

0:29:38.920,0:29:45.460
to a dish so if you’re looking for in

0:29:42.400,0:29:47.170
these sort of donations it’s the fun

0:29:45.460,0:29:49.360
troupe at the Brantford General Hospital

0:29:47.170,0:29:52.600
making a donation to support our group

0:29:49.360,0:29:55.180
it is big because one thing we want to

0:29:52.600,0:29:57.550
do is keep on giving out stickers give

0:29:55.180,0:30:01.270
our coloring books give old crayons to

0:29:57.550,0:30:03.700
support its the need of keeping the

0:30:01.270,0:30:08.410
passion alive keeping the humor or life

0:30:03.700,0:30:10.900
and just let people enjoy it sometimes

0:30:08.410,0:30:13.330
and take their mind off some of the

0:30:10.900,0:30:16.270
troubled things that we have in our

0:30:13.330,0:30:18.280
lives and you just enjoy with us and if

0:30:16.270,0:30:20.740
you happen to be listening to this on

0:30:18.280,0:30:23.110
the brag of listing with this podcast

0:30:20.740,0:30:25.180
episode there will be a donation button

0:30:23.110,0:30:28.570
that will help you help the fun troop

0:30:25.180,0:30:30.040
but even if you don’t happen to come

0:30:28.570,0:30:31.540
across that and you were hearing this

0:30:30.040,0:30:33.550
and you want to help and you’re in

0:30:31.540,0:30:35.560
Brantford definitely reach out to the

0:30:33.550,0:30:37.990
hospital and say we want to support the

0:30:35.560,0:30:39.490
fun troop at the end of the day they’re

0:30:37.990,0:30:41.140
doing that out of their own kindness and

0:30:39.490,0:30:43.660
out of their own pockets so let’s help

0:30:41.140,0:30:46.330
that as well so thank you Randy this has

0:30:43.660,0:30:48.310
been a spectacular Jack and I look

0:30:46.330,0:30:50.320
forward to doing more of these and

0:30:48.310,0:30:52.210
potentially having you back as well sir

0:30:50.320,0:30:54.850
we will do that look forward to it and

0:30:52.210,0:30:56.350
thank you and look at this equipment I

0:30:54.850,0:30:59.200
know hey you know what else it allows

0:30:56.350,0:31:03.280
for you do it allows me to do this don’t

0:30:59.200,0:31:05.820
press the red button on that note thank

0:31:03.280,0:31:05.820
you everybody

0:31:12.970,0:31:18.190
you

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